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Recently there has been some tensions going on behind the scenes at Roma Old Ways.

It started when Alyushia (who is now banned) begged me to help Rikkar in his search to learn about his family. She mentioned that Rikkar feels like he is losing a family and being kept from his culture:

I lost my temper after I read the above. I pretty much ripped Rikkar a new asshole because I'm tired of people talking behind my back; I'm tired of people sending their friends to do their business. I believe that if you have something to say to me, say it to my face.

My temper may have been misplaced. Both Rikkar and I have been going through our own tensions in real life and we are dealing with it now.

Unfortunately, my wife heard from FlutterGirl yesterday that Alyushia, Rikkar and Dawn (another one of Rikkar's ladies) have been saying that my temper was cocaine induced.

Lies!

For that reason, Alyushia has been banned from the board. I will not have such slander spread about me without consequences. Alyushia, you are welcome to email me and state your defense.

Today I received a message in Myspace that one of my pics have been tagged by FlutterGirl. When I looked at your album I noticed a picture of Kayne. Now, all of my pictures of Kayne (my son) are set to private in Myspace and the people in my friend's list are people I know.

I was never asked permission from FlutterGirl to use a picture of my son. I don't care if she took it with her own camera. So I reported the picture as unauthorised use and told because I don't do things behind people's back, I sent her a message:

You see, she has been telling people we are related???

She replied by saying certain things I want to address in public so that there is no misunderstandings here in the board:

Ok, let us address some of these points:

1. Rhiannon hasn't given FlutterGirl any authorisation to use that picture in public.
2. I don't do cocaine. Dj Rama, if you see this, maybe you can verify that I don't do cocaine.
3. She is not related to Rhiannon or I by blood.
4. Rhiannon will soon be getting on to explain what FlutterGirl is talking about in regards to our relationship. We've had our domestics where Rhiannon called FlutterGirl (the only girl she knew to turn to) and shared some of her pain. Now I'm being accused of being a wife abuser. That is not true. I love my wife, my child and my family.
5. I never asked $200 from FlutterGirl. I never wanted her money. Rhiannon will explain further. In fact, I never even wanted FlutterGirl around my house. FlutterGirl is Rhiannon's friend, not mine.

For everyone's information. I don't mind if you shout at me or call me the worse names in the world. As long as you do it to my face. But when you begin to spread lies and slander, that is another ball game that I will not tolerate.

This is the reason that Roma Old Ways is kept private. To keep all of this away from us. Issues try and barge in, but through constant effort and good intentions we can continue to keep this board under control.

This is a taste of how bad it can get out there. This is an incentive for all to keep the peace and make amends where possible. A lesson for all of us, including myself.

Flutter Girl was told some time ago that it had to be authorized by both Shinari and myself before any photos of us or our son were permitted.

Shinari does not and did not do any narcotics.
Again, Dj Rama... if you see this, it would be greatly appreciated if you help us verify this.

Flutter Girl and I have no blood relation.
She and I were merely friends.
I called her phen, but there were no blood ties that I know of.

As I had no immediate family in which to talk with in the U.S. I turned to Fluttergirl to talk to, there had been no physical confrontation what so ever!!!!
Nor has there ever been. My husband is not a wife abuser!!!
Shinari and I are like every other couple and have our differences of opinion sometimes, that doesn't make him an abusive spouse.
I went to her in confidence that she would not turn that against my husband.

Shinari never asked me to go to Flutter Girl for money, actually he was most adamant that I not. I now understand why.
he even said that we would find the money somehow and, me being the worry wort that I am, wasn't patient enough.
My apologies Mo Chroi...

Furthermore, $200 was not even asked for.
In truth, I didn't even ask for Shinari and I.
I asked if she could help me with food for my son for 3 days.
At no time was I asked or told that I had to pay her back, in fact she told me not to worry about it. If that were the case, I would have paid her already.

He Dosn't do Cocaine....

don't believe the hype, You should get to know a person personaly before you make any judgement... You are realy waisting your time with the bickering of the mind, this life will pass you by if you live within the lies of your own mind...

Shinari Pral, you know who you are, you don't have to prove yourself to anyone. If you live right the tacho drom is all you nead...

Devlessa
Rama

Blessings Rama! Thanks for speaking up. You know that such things don't bring me down, but I thought it would be beneficial for our members to know our position because I know how such lies can spread and turn into deadly vipers.

Those who stand in the light have no fear of those who spread lies and deceit. And the light has brought forth fruit! Rhiannon, my dear wife, has talked to FlutterGirl today and we have emails where FlutterGirl has admitted that everything she has mentioned above is a lie.

FlutterGirl was implored by Rhiannon to make amends with all the people she has been spreading these lies with. Whether she does or not is not my responsibility. But I am addressing this because I will publicly say to FlutterGirl what I have directed to Shoo Shoo: it is a cruel creature who uses children as bait and for their own wicked intentions. And such people are shunned by us. Rhiannon is no longer talking to FlutterGirl.

. . .

This said, I want to say to everyone here that we are serious. We are real people doing our best to bring our ways to you. We are not people with too much time on our hands and that have nothing better to do then play asinine and puerile internet games.

Please, respect must be mutual. Enter this board with that in mind.

This issue is over:

1. Rikkar and I have resolved our issues. Rikkar has apologised for jumping to the assumption that I had a cocaine induced rage when I lost my temper. We are continuing in our relationship, and thank goodness, our relationship (I believe) is going to go better than before since we have both cleared many assumptions and misunderstandings! The joys of online relationships. :omg: :hehe:

2. FlutterGirl has removed the unauthorised pictures of myself, where she had added that I was a cocaine addict from her myspace album, and also taken pictures of my son and my wife off.

3. Her obsession that she was related to our family is finally being resolved. Again, there are NO blood or marriage connections between our nation and FlutterGirl.

4. Rhiannon, my wife, has emails from FlutterGirl where she has admitted to lying in everything she has said against me.

5. As for FlutterGirl... our families will no longer have anything to do with her.
In times past I didn't want anything to do with her because I don't like adding extra stress to my life. I avoided groups she was in in myspace, I avoided her in general. But since she has directly attacked me, my interest in her has peaked and I have heard horrible true stories concerning FlutterGirl.
She has harshly criticised and ridiculed the Romanichal nation of the UK. She has deeply offended the parents of many Romani families. She has said many harsh words to other Roma, including constant death threats.
I see that most of the issues that have happened online (fights with Shoo Shoo and Jackie, issues between us and Rikkar, etc) FlutterGirl was behind it, causing strife.

I want to say here that due to FlutterGirl's high offenses to not only myself but many other Romani families and nations, some things need to be set straight:

1. I was never friends with FlutterGirl. I treated her nicely out of respect of what my wife, Rhiannon, had with her. From the start (when I met her in real life) I noticed that FlutterGirl was trouble and I would often implore my wife not to spend time with her. My feelings were justified.
2. Rhiannon, my wife, no longer has anything to do with FlutterGirl. The only correspondence she has with FlutterGirl is to tie lose ends.
3. I have nothing, absolutely nothing against FlutterGirl's mother. In fact, I enjoyed my time with her when we met in real life and I have deep respect for her. I hope that her mum can find the peace she is seeking when FlutterGirl finally decides to grow up and move out of home, as I heard her mum suggest to FlutterGirl more than once.

A friendly warning:
When there are whole Roma nations who have been offended by FlutteGirl's attacks, be careful not to associate with her - "by their friends you will know them" - be careful who you associate with. You will be known by your friends.

. . .

Now, I'm going to hug my child and kiss my wife. Because, in the end, that is all that matters to me. The love I have at home. The peace we work constantly to have at home. As I look at my child and wife, nothing in this world is as important to me as they are.

The above post has been updated for everyone's information.

Note from the Admin: For those of you who are looking for missing posts in here, they have been moved for the author's privacy.

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